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which law firms do people want to work for?

Re: which law firms do people want to work for?
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2005, 05:33:21 PM »
Braden,

Do you want to do Wachtel because you love M and A or because of the prestige/money?

And, for people that are paralegals at big firms, what can you tell about the associates hours?  Are they that brutal?  Is it like 60 hours a week?  80?


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Re: which law firms do people want to work for?
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2005, 05:50:42 PM »
More into Creditors Rights and Antitrust defense (which they also do). But, M&A work would also be very nice.
If I could find another firm that treated associates like they do (worked hard, but generally rewarding) and worked in the same area I would probably be fine with it (inspite of the decreased odds of making partner).
Braden,

Do you want to do Wachtel because you love M and A or because of the prestige/money?

And, for people that are paralegals at big firms, what can you tell about the associates hours?  Are they that brutal?  Is it like 60 hours a week?  80?



Re: which law firms do people want to work for?
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2005, 05:40:40 AM »
I wasn't aware that antitrust is one of their strong suits.  The Vault guide has a top 15 for antitrust, and Wachtel isn't in it.  I bet they're OK in creditor's rights, though.  Actually you should look into Arnold and Porter.  According to the Vault, they're number 1 for antitrust (by a LARGE margin of the votes), and they have a reputation for treating their associates very well.  The pay isn't quite as good as Wachtel, supposedly...but they have a very flat partner to associate ratio.

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Re: which law firms do people want to work for?
« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2005, 06:16:27 AM »
It is definitely not their bread and butter, but it is listed as something they do.
Thanks for the advice I will look into them. Fortunately, I have a year and half to find a firm that suits me.

I wasn't aware that antitrust is one of their strong suits.  The Vault guide has a top 15 for antitrust, and Wachtel isn't in it.  I bet they're OK in creditor's rights, though.  Actually you should look into Arnold and Porter.  According to the Vault, they're number 1 for antitrust (by a LARGE margin of the votes), and they have a reputation for treating their associates very well.  The pay isn't quite as good as Wachtel, supposedly...but they have a very flat partner to associate ratio.

Re: which law firms do people want to work for?
« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2005, 07:53:07 AM »
The Law Offices of Jumboshrimps

Re: which law firms do people want to work for?
« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2005, 08:09:10 AM »
I also work in DC at a "big" law firm, but I won't say where since we're currently litigating multiple cases against both Arent Fox and Weil Gotshal....I don't know if it's like this is every firm but most of our NY attorneys don't seem to view the overseas offices so kindly, basically only our London and Beijing offices get any respect,  We have 7 floors in our current building and are having a new one built (like half of the law firms in DC currently).  In 3 years there will be at least 5 firms with brand spanking new offices  :)

Re: which law firms do people want to work for?
« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2005, 05:58:10 AM »
Braden,

Do you want to do Wachtel because you love M and A or because of the prestige/money?

And, for people that are paralegals at big firms, what can you tell about the associates hours?  Are they that brutal?  Is it like 60 hours a week?  80?

60 for sure. Occasionally there are all-nighters involved. Hard to say what the average would be. But there are billable hours goals you have to meet. And not all of your time is billable.  I can say that it seems like many (if not most) of the young associate work at least one day on the weekends every week.

Like anyhting, though, the work load comes and goes. Some months you will be in a ton. Other months you will be begging people for work because you are so bored. 

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Re: which law firms do people want to work for?
« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2005, 06:13:45 AM »
Sorry if I'm asking the obvious, but what's so amazing about Wachtell that everyone wants to work for them?
Give me Cleary Gottlieb any day!

Re: which law firms do people want to work for?
« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2005, 06:48:39 AM »
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Re: which law firms do people want to work for?
« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2005, 09:16:59 AM »
Sorry if I'm asking the obvious, but what's so amazing about Wachtell that everyone wants to work for them?
Give me Cleary Gottlieb any day!

Money (highest starting salary, generally pay greater than market bonus, lockstep bonus), prestige, chance of making partner, doing actual work from the get go, etc.