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LSAT Preparation => Studying for the LSAT => Topic started by: HYSHopeful on June 09, 2008, 11:39:51 AM

Title: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: HYSHopeful on June 09, 2008, 11:39:51 AM
SUMMARY: For the best LSAT watch, get an analog watch with a rotating bezel (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005JVP0FU/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B005JVP0FU&linkCode=as2&tag=lsd00-20) (like this one (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005JVP0FU/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B005JVP0FU&linkCode=as2&tag=lsd00-20))... then all you have to do is line the 0 on the bezel up with the minute hand when each section begins, and you have an easy, visual, reference to see exactly where you are within the 35 minutes.

I thought I'd share a tip that I've found to be very helpful.

When I first began studying for the LSAT, I used a cheap analog wristwatch that I had lying around the house.

I would start my LSAT timer (http://lawschooli.com/best-lsat-timer/), make a mental note of the time that the test would be up (or would write down the start/stop times on the first page of the section) and would refer to my watch at various points throughout the test to ensure that I was properly pacing myself.

Unfortunately, there were times during the test when (in the heat of things) I would forget exactly when the test would be ending. At that point, I either had to take a few seconds and recall when it began, or take a moment to flip back to the front of the section where I often recorded the start and stop times. Either way, I would have to break my concentration for at least 5 or 10 seconds in order to regain a sense of timing.

In addition, It always took a few seconds for me to get a sense of where, on my watch, the 8:45, 17:30, 26:15 marks were.

Serendipitously, I lost the watch that I had been using, and borrowed my girlfriend's watch to take a test. I may have felt a bit emasculated using such a girly watch, but I immediately fell in love with a feature that this watch had: The bezel turns, and all you have to do is line the 0 on the bezel up with the minute hand at the point that the test begins, and you have an easy, visual, reference to see exactly where you are within the 35 minutes.

Since I didn't want to take a pink watch with me to the testing center on test day, I purchased a Casio for around $20 with the same turning bezel feature as my new LSAT watch: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005JVP0FU (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005JVP0FU/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B005JVP0FU&linkCode=as2&tag=lsd00-20)

This LSAT watch has been my best friend ever since. I was able to make marks at the 8:45, 17:30, 26:15 for additional reference points on the bezel. I've found it be to very helpful. It is one less thing that I have to think about during the test, and helps me make sure that I never lose a sense of proper pacing.

If you don't own a watch with a turning bezel, I would highly suggest finding one ASAP, and getting used to using it before test day.

More LSAT watch (http://lawschooli.com/lsat-watch-what-is-the-best-lsat-analog-watch/) tips here (http://lawschooli.com/lsat-watch-what-is-the-best-lsat-analog-watch/).
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: authority11 on June 09, 2008, 12:42:20 PM
All I do is set my watch to the :25 of the hour at the beginning of each section.
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: non parata est on June 09, 2008, 01:13:29 PM
All I do is set my watch to the :25 of the hour at the beginning of each section.

One problem I've heard with this is that you don't always have time to set it back between sections.
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: sunnykate on June 09, 2008, 01:34:14 PM
All I do is set my watch to the :25 of the hour at the beginning of each section.

One problem I've heard with this is that you don't always have time to set it back between sections.

Simple solution to this: when the proctor asks if there are any questions, raise your hand and ask, "Will you give us enough time between sections to reset out watches?"  They will say yes.  But don't forget to ask.  And everyone will (silently) thank you.
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: limegreen on June 09, 2008, 01:50:11 PM
I set my watch at 12:00 at the beginning of each section so it counts up.  It makes me a lot less nervous going that way than if it was counting down and since I've been practicing that way I intuitively know where I should be at the end of each game/RC/page of LR.  It only takes a couple of seconds to reset it so it shouldn't be a big issue.  I'd rather lose 5 seconds (if necessary) to have an accurate timer than be trying to do the math of how many minutes are left based solely on the time.
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: HYSHopeful on June 09, 2008, 03:13:02 PM
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One problem I've heard with this is that you don't always have time to set it back between sections.

The moving bezel method is a bit quicker than resetting to 12 (though admittedly only by a second or two), and also doesn't allow for the mistake of forgetting to push the dial back in the dial and begin the time.
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: Talk Is Cheap on June 22, 2008, 07:37:18 PM
Any watch with a rotating uni-directional ("countdown") bezel will be your best bet.

We can thank the pioneers of the scuba diving watch for this ingenious invention.

However, when the first modern dive watch appeared in 1953, the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms, the original version had a BI-directional rotating bezel. You had to lift it up from a clasp to turn it.

When Rolex introduced their Submariner model shortly thereafter, the unidirectional bezel was included. This made much more sense for diving, since one used the countdown bezel to determine how much air one had remaining. If you accidentally bumped your watch on some underwater obstruction, on a unidirectional bezel, this error could only make it appear that you had LESS time available, thus saving your life. A bidirectional bezel could have potentially be knocked clockwise and thus making it appear you had more time available than you actually had air for.

And thus the glorious history of horology is now connected to our beloved LSAT. I hope this has been informative and enjoyable for you all, although perhaps not entirely applicable to your everyday lives. Unless, of course, you're moonlighting as a master diver for COMEX in between studying for the LSAT.
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: meggo on June 22, 2008, 09:22:19 PM
That actually is interesting, though thus far pointless to my life. Though it's the sort of fact I would offhandedly mention to my dad and he would launch into a 30 minute chat about diving, the history of it, the history of watches with scuba diving, what people did before they had watches, and how he likes to use his watch while scuba diving.

As I said in another thread, I asked the proctor she would give us enough time between sections to reset our watches and she was kind of rude about how she answered (I don't think she properly understood what I was asking) and when I clarified she was just like 'no, you only have the time that it takes for me to read what i have in front of me'. A simple 'I have to read a paragraph and that time should suffice' would have been nicer but ah well what can you do.
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: vjm on June 22, 2008, 09:25:13 PM
You have enough time to set your watch. With a bit to spare.
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: drupito on June 23, 2008, 10:28:32 AM
This is a good topic.  I got messed-up on the LSAT with my watch.  I should have asked for enough time to reset my watch because I didn't have close to enough to do so in my admin.
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: Gone on June 23, 2008, 12:41:01 PM
How do you not have time? Aren't they required by LSAC to read you the "in the next 35 minutes you may work on section X only, etc etc" doesn't that give you enough time to reset your watch?
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: drupito on June 23, 2008, 12:47:34 PM
it didn't give me enough time to reset it to how I practiced resetting it.  Maybe she read it fast (I know that she did read it though).  It just wasn't as much time as I had aniticipated there being. 
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: Talk Is Cheap on June 30, 2008, 11:17:23 PM
Talk Is Cheap's Recommended Countdown-Bezel Watches*:


Rolex Submariner or Seadweller
(http://bjsonline.com/watches/articles/images/0005/16610.jpg)(http://bjsonline.com/watches/articles/images/0005/16600.jpg)

Omega Seamaster or Seamaster Planet Ocean
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/tp2112/Watches.jpg)

The good ol' Blancpain Fifty Fathoms
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/small-luxury-world/Blancpain/FF1953.jpg)

Breitling Superocean (or variants)
(http://www.beaverbrooks.co.uk/i/products/30412434524.jpg)


I would NOT recommend a watch with a fixed INTERIOR rotating bezel because you'd have to unscrew the crown and set it every time rather than simply turn a scalloped bezel on the outside...wastes valuables time. So NO to:

(http://www.gemnation.com/images/watches/IWCw/IW354807.jpg)

(http://www.gemnation.com/images/watches/Hami/H77615133.jpg)


To not break the bank, do consider:

Longines HydroConquest
(http://www.gemnation.com/images/watches/Long/L3.642.4.56.6.jpg)

And if you must, a lowly Invicta will serve you well, if not as prestigiously.

(http://www.gemnation.com/images/watches/Invi/9937.jpg)

And finally, my baby I just had to part with...she was mint but it was time to trade her in and pull another one out of the watch mill...*sniff*. Wouldn't recommend this for LSAT timing, however. Unless you're cruising in a yachting regatta at the same time.
(http://www.gemnation.com/images/watches/Hami/H77636343.jpg)









*Not endorsing spending your LS loan money on watches, but hey, dare to dream!
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: hbb on July 01, 2008, 12:33:06 AM
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In addition, It always took a few seconds for me to get a sense of where, on my watch, the 8:45, 17:30, 26:15 marks were.

Good Lord, a 2-page thread about telling time?

Set your watch to noon. At 35 after, the section is over. [/thread]
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: drupito on July 01, 2008, 09:09:12 AM
it didn't give me enough time to reset it to how I practiced resetting it.  Maybe she read it fast (I know that she did read it though).  It just wasn't as much time as I had aniticipated there being. 
Have trouble finding time to bubble as well?  Maybe try again and use a sundial and also practice with them pencils a bit more. Maybe even practice more about how to answer the questions before you try to bubble answers.


Your joke didn't make any sense to me.  But hey, maybe someone found it funny. 
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: drupito on July 01, 2008, 11:59:23 AM
Nope, still working on it.  And it looks like you are still working on being funny too.  Good luck with that!
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: non parata est on July 02, 2008, 08:35:32 AM
No... drupito's right on this one.  You're really not funny.
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: heyhithere on July 02, 2008, 12:27:49 PM
The only disadvantage with the bezel method, if I'm understanding correctly, is that you don't get as accurate time up to the second--only up to within the minute.  So, if you were hurrying at the very last minute of the test to either circle in an answer or take a good 25 seconds or so to read through more carefully, you really wouldn't know when the timer went off to end the section.  So, it seems that resetting it to either noon or something like 11:25 may be the best bet, though a tad less convenient.
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: meggo on July 02, 2008, 02:29:37 PM
I found that even when resetting it back to the '12' on my watch and being aware what second I started at, when you're doing the test it's hard not to get a bit panicky when you see you have roughly 1-1.5 minutes left but you don't know exactly, and try and finish as quickly as possible. I sort of did this at the the end of the games section and then had enough time to go over the questions quickly and fill in what I believed to be the correct answer but we'll see whether or not that helped me at all.
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: Tracy T on July 03, 2008, 10:12:33 PM
This may be a naive question, but would it be possible to have 3 watches...set however is best for you, nhen reset them all during the break after section 3 ? (Is that when the break is ?)
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: Gone on July 03, 2008, 10:15:51 PM
This may be a naive question, but would it be possible to have 3 watches...set however is best for you, nhen reset them all during the break after section 3 ? (Is that when the break is ?)

I have no idea what the rules are on that - but your fellow testtakers will probably think you're insane

Do you really want the trouble of balancing three watches on a possibly tiny table (mine was). And what if you panic and look at the wrong one? It's really not worth the trouble, you do have plenty of time to reset, they take forever to read the "in the next 35 minutes you can work on section X only" thing
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: Tracy T on July 04, 2008, 09:43:17 AM
Of course studying and improving has crossed my mind. I was only thinking of having one watch out at a time anyway, thereby no confusion as to which watch to worry about. Are you allowed to wear shirts/jackets with pockets ?

I am guessing that there is never a timer/clock up on the wall in the room where the test is taken ?
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: Tracy T on July 04, 2008, 10:55:13 AM
Wow...I came to this site for info and camaraderie. Cliff, I apologize if my naivete upsets you, but if I don't know something, how else do I find out except by asking ?
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: non parata est on July 04, 2008, 01:28:19 PM
Wow...I came to this site for info and camaraderie. Cliff, I apologize if my naivete upsets you, but if I don't know something, how else do I find out except by asking ?

Don't worry.  He's easy enough to ignore.
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: Gone on July 04, 2008, 02:23:43 PM
Of course studying and improving has crossed my mind. I was only thinking of having one watch out at a time anyway, thereby no confusion as to which watch to worry about. Are you allowed to wear shirts/jackets with pockets ?

I am guessing that there is never a timer/clock up on the wall in the room where the test is taken ?

There might be or there might not be. Definitely not something you can rely on.
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: Tracy T on July 04, 2008, 02:26:25 PM
Thanks guys !!
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: EarlCat on July 05, 2008, 12:04:31 PM
Clifford may be a bit rude here, but he does have a point.  Improving on the test is going to make far more difference than silly watch tricks.  My test center had a clock but I never looked at it and I didn't use a watch either.  Answering questions correctly is what gets you points.  Lots of practice helps tune your internal clock as well, so you should have a feel for when it's time to bubble BBBBBBBB.

And hey Clifford, why don't we try to be a bit nicer, m-kay?  Or you might want to visit some other eXciting places On the internet practice your eXtensive mOckery.
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: HYSHopeful on July 05, 2008, 12:36:23 PM
I don't see how studying for the exam properly and becoming comfortable with using an analog watch of your choice are in any way mutually exclusive. Clearly, however, using 3 watches for one test is not going to be productive.

If you are going to buy a watch for the LSAT, I'd reccomend getting one with a moving bezel. You can pick one up at Wal-Mart for like $35. That is my personal preference that I developed by taking about 50 preptests over the course of a month or two. That is one of the little things that I did that I felt contributed to getting a 177 on the real thing.

If you don't agree, then set your watch to noon and that will work fine too. Either way, find a watch of your preference... and use it... over... and over... and over... and over while taking timed preptests.

Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: Tracy T on July 05, 2008, 03:54:09 PM
Thank you all for the helpful advice.  Maybe I will stick to just one watch.  I was only thinking of having 3 so that I wouldn't be so nervous about having to reset it after each section.  I hear so much on here about nerves on test day. 

Right now I spend a minimum of 4-6 hours a day reading/reviewing and/or taking practice tests. I plan on taking the advice of going to a coffe shop or somewhere like Borders/Barnes and Noble and doing asome practice tests with all the noise and distractions..really put some effort into finding my 'zone'.

Thanks again for the advice !
Title: Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
Post by: URB4NTR0LL on July 05, 2008, 04:21:27 PM
Great tip, thank you. I've have problems with watches until today.