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Duquesne Law? Pros/Cons PLEASE help

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« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2006, 09:02:26 AM »
One thing to comment on.... Duquesne is not viewed as a better school than Pitt by anybody other than the students at Duquesne.  I lived in Pgh most of my life, went to Undergrad. there and I assure you, this is not the case.  Duq. is and always will be a Tier 3 (maybe even Tier 4, I forget) and Pitt is borderline Tier 1.

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« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2006, 10:07:35 AM »
i visited Duquesne this past monday.  I can say that I was not very impressed.  I live in Pittsburgh, and have taken Paralegal classes at Duquesne.  However, to me at least, the staff seems to be less than willing to answer questions.  Also, from what I have heard as I know about 15 to 20 current students and a few graduates, that the students there are not very friendly and think very highly of themselves.  However I do disagree with the previous posters comment about people in pittsburgh knowing that Pitt is a better law school.  That simply is not true.  If you talk to any person who is not a lawyer, you will instantly hear back that Duquesne is the best law school in Pittsburgh, some people do not even know that Pitt has a law school.  I am currently a messenger/paralegal for a law firm in Pittsburgh and most of the people who work in the county offices, who work with lawyers everyday even think Duquesne is a better school.  Now in the legal field I think they view Pitt as a higher school (As I work for a firm that has about 15 Pitt Grads and only one Duq. Grad)  They may be biased. 

Just realize that the top jobs in Pittsburgh are still given to Pitt grads, but Duquesne is very close behind in this area.  I believe that the largest lawfirm in the city just hired the EIC of the Duq law review. 

Both schools are equally prestigious in Pittsburgh.  SO if you go do Duquesne I dont think it will hinder your job opportunities any.  just my 2cents

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« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2006, 10:25:49 AM »
The fact that duquesne students have are arrogant is hilarious to me.  Most of them bombed the LSAT and have low GPAs. I love overestimated self-worth.....

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« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2006, 07:46:24 PM »
A few things to keep in mind...

- Most Duq Law grads stay in the Pittsburgh area
- Few Duq Law grads are going to say something like their time there sucked and they wish they had gone to _____ Law school
- A lot off firms may be composed of more Duq Law than Pitt Law grads because as Pitt has moved up in the rankings, more Pitt grads have pursued employment opportunities in Philly or outside of PA
- Pitt has more reputable faculty than Duq


- If you choose Duq + plan to stay in Pittsburgh, you will be set. There is a strong alumni community in the city, so in terms of jobs, you will be fine.

- However, this does not mean that going to Pitt is going to work against you. Pitt is still the better option, because the name/reputation has more weight in the city, and you will also be MUCH more transplantable outside of Pittsburgh and PA.

Just my .02.........

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« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2006, 12:42:25 PM »
The fact that duquesne students have are arrogant is hilarious to me.  Most of them bombed the LSAT and have low GPAs. I love overestimated self-worth.....

considering my classmates, i'm not sure i would consider that a "fact."

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« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2006, 01:17:01 PM »
Hey onepoint,

As someone who is considering Duq (that's IF I get in- which I should hear any day now), I would love to get your thoughts on your time there. I visited the school and I have to say that I was a little disappointed at how cliquish and elitist the students were (I could be wrong though). How would you describe your classmates? How would you describe the faculty/staff in terms of helpfulness and approachability? I've been asking what the curve was and I could never get a straightforward answer so I was wondering if you could tell me (all I was told was that it was lowered this year). Do you (or any other students you know of)have any job prospects lined up for this summer as 1L's? Are you happy overall with your decision to go there? I was hoping that my visit would have shed some light on these questions but all I got were a bunch of "commercial" answers that really didn't help me at all and it would be nice to get the opinion of student.

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« Reply #36 on: April 04, 2006, 02:36:08 PM »
i'll just run down the list and give my opinion :)

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How would you describe your classmates?

"as expected" ... you have your regular array of classmates, generally.  there are a few 'frat types' (please draw your own conclusion LOL), there are the very quiet/shy kids, the "my parents are both lawyers and i'm not afraid to talk about it" kids, the "my parents are both lawyers and i don't want anyone to know" kids, the sociable, outgoing kids, etc.

i can only speak for my section, but i wasn't too surprised by my 'mix' of classmates this year.  all in all, the super competitive atmosphere is lacking, though kids do tend to show their true colors around finals time.

concerning the previous 'arrogant' remarks, i must say that i don't really notice it, if it is indeed present.  perhaps i'm just ignorant to it, or hell.. perhaps i'm the arrogant one and can't see it :)  regardless, i believe a vast majority of law students tend to take on a slightly arrogant edge at one time or another. 

also, what is regarded as "arrogance" by some may merely be the fact that a 'stranger' is walking around and freely intermingling with a small group of students who have, in essence, been locked in rooms with each other 5 days/week for the past 6 or 7 months.  walk into any law school and you're likely to be confronted with this by at least a segment of the students (just my $.02).

i definitely cannot say that students aren't clique'ish, though.  that seems to be the trend through all 3 years of law school, at least at duquesne.  i guess that can be a good or a bad thing, depending on how you look at it (and which clique you gravitate toward ;))

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How would you describe the faculty/staff in terms of helpfulness and approachability?

of the professors i've had this year, i would say that every single one is helpful/approachable, at least in their own way.  some may seem harder to approach than others, but i've found that once you actually take the steps to do so, they're all very willing to help.

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I've been asking what the curve was and I could never get a straightforward answer so I was wondering if you could tell me

as far as i know, this year's 1L class is supposed to center on a C.  i don't have anything to back that up, i guess it's just something i picked up along the way.

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Do you (or any other students you know of)have any job prospects lined up for this summer as 1L's?

i'm taking a slightly unorthodox route with my law life (attempting to use it to get back into sports), so my path may veer from the main road a little.  i do have classmates who (claim to) have clerk positions and internships lined up though.  many of them seem to have used outside connections to obtain them, whether they be family members, family friends, etc.  that's life :)

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Are you happy overall with your decision to go there?

very.  i had one heck of a time deciding between duquesne and psu-dickinson, but feel i made the right choice.

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i think that about covers it, feel free to ask anything else on your mind.  i haven't been around this board for awhile but figured i'd drop in to see how things were going for this year's incoming class.  i did learn a lot here last spring/summer, so i'm only too glad to try to help out.

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« Reply #37 on: April 04, 2006, 02:42:36 PM »
The fact that duquesne students have are arrogant is hilarious to me.  Most of them bombed the LSAT and have low GPAs. I love overestimated self-worth.....

considering my classmates, i'm not sure i would consider that a "fact."

Simmer down.  You can get as mad as you like, its still a T3.  You aren't going to have a section full of scholars.  I didn't say ALL are subpar, but most are.  That is the way it is.  Look at the medians buddy and stroke your ego elsewhere.   

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« Reply #38 on: April 04, 2006, 02:48:35 PM »
The fact that duquesne students have are arrogant is hilarious to me. Most of them bombed the LSAT and have low GPAs. I love overestimated self-worth.....

considering my classmates, i'm not sure i would consider that a "fact."

Simmer down. You can get as mad as you like, its still a T3. You aren't going to have a section full of scholars. I didn't say ALL are subpar, but most are. That is the way it is. Look at the medians buddy and stroke your ego elsewhere.

i wasn't equating "arrogant" with "section full of scholars."  you said "the fact" was that "duquesne students have are arrogant."  i was just responding to that, which seemed pretty all-inclusive.

and i, along with (most of) my classmates, understand that the reason(s) that we're at duquesne.  for the majority of us, our numbers weren't good enough to get in higher-ranked schools.

mad?  nope!  simmer down?  k!  stroke?  no, thanks ;)

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« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2006, 02:52:02 PM »
The fact that duquesne students have are arrogant is hilarious to me.  Most of them bombed the LSAT and have low GPAs. I love overestimated self-worth.....

considering my classmates, i'm not sure i would consider that a "fact."

Simmer down.  You can get as mad as you like, its still a T3.  You aren't going to have a section full of scholars.  I didn't say ALL are subpar, but most are.  That is the way it is.  Look at the medians buddy and stroke your ego elsewhere.   

uh whoa, i don't think onepoint got wildly upset about the comment. if you read his most recent post, the issue he wouldn't consider a fact was the arrogant remark- and even then he stated that maybe he's just oblivious to it. he wasn't talking about the numbers. geez calm down.