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Specific Groups => Black Law Students => Topic started by: awesome on June 21, 2005, 08:21:27 AM

Title: BLSA?
Post by: awesome on June 21, 2005, 08:21:27 AM
To this post will probably be primarily responded to by those of us blacks who attend non-HBCU law schools.  So for those us of blacks who attend predominantly white law schools, are BLSA's serving a meaningful purpose, where there is a spirit of unity and kindred?  It has been my experience since law school that BLSA is the BLSSA, Black's Law Students Social Assembly.  There is probably more bickering at BLSA meetings there is at a VIBE awards ceremony.  I am hoping that this experience is unique to mine, but it does not appear to me that it is.  Some whom I have spoken to exress similar discontent. 

Having said that shouldn't a serious topic of discussion for us black law students (and there is not one who has not considered him or herself a leader of some sort) become aimed at survival, authentication (not rules of evidence), and black pride in a mostly white profession?

Secondly, is your BLSA president fake and a wannabe Carol M. Braun or William Gary?  And is that the leadership needed?

Thirdly, is your BLSA merely a forum for venting after you have become tired of having sex with the same law students?

Sincerely,

Awesome
Title: Re: BLSA?
Post by: HBCU.EDU on June 21, 2005, 08:39:52 AM
Awesome- :D What's up bro. I haven't heard from you in a while. I'll definitely have to hit you up. So, I'll take it from your post that BLSA is bull? lol..hopefully this is the case only at your law school. I would hope that SU Law does something real. But, we will see. Hey, the attitudes of the BLSA students are probably better than those fools in 128 ozone drive lol. (inside joke). 

Hey, tell the people on the board about your experience working for the summer in regards to working with criminals etc.
Title: Re: BLSA?
Post by: awesome on June 21, 2005, 08:56:56 AM
Ahhhhh....most definitely better than 128.  With the exception of one or two, they emphatically remind me of you know who.

But this summer clerkship I have down here in Macon, GA has been a roller coaser for a ride.  Board members those of you who have started your clerkships or will be postponing until next summer, just know what you are getting into.  Know that you will start off at the dirt bottom, but you have to work hard at what you do and be convicted that your ethic justifies your hire.  Some of you may be surprised that even as a law clerk you will experience some politics, the kind that is played in bigger firms where the low self-esteem and mediocre attorneys do all they can to make partner.  I have an assoicate at this firm who despises me.  I cannot understand it.  Although she is not far removed, she has already passed the bar.  I mean really why is she sweating?  I dont want her job anyways (HBCU knows the plan). 

But in all of your efforts board, "to thine own-self, be true". Leave your firm having convinced your managing attorney/s that their summer would have been miserable without you. 
Title: Re: BLSA?
Post by: Lawprofessor on June 21, 2005, 09:05:36 AM
Ahhhhh....most definitely better than 128.  With the exception of one or two, they emphatically remind me of you know who.

But this summer clerkship I have down here in Macon, GA has been a roller coaser for a ride.  Board members those of you who have started your clerkships or will be postponing until next summer, just know what you are getting into.  Know that you will start off at the dirt bottom, but you have to work hard at what you do and be convicted that your ethic justifies your hire.  Some of you may be surprised that even as a law clerk you will experience some politics, the kind that is played in bigger firms where the low self-esteem and mediocre attorneys do all they can to make partner.  I have an assoicate at this firm who despises me.  I cannot understand it.  Although she is not far removed, she has already passed the bar.  I mean really why is she sweating?  I dont want her job anyways (HBCU knows the plan). 

But in all of your efforts board, "to thine own-self, be true". Leave your firm having convinced your managing attorney/s that their summer would have been miserable without you. 

No matter where you go, you will always run into someone who swears that you want their job. You just have to figure out a way to keep them off your back as  you do your thing.  It is worse when it is your boss that thinks you want their job. ;D
Title: Re: BLSA?
Post by: blk_reign on June 21, 2005, 09:12:35 AM
I didn't really participate in BLSA..I was usually busy when they had their meetings.. however it is very social indeed..same as Pan-Hell in that regard..and greeks know how those meetings tend to go lol..

 I guess that a better comparison would be Black Student Union/Association..

there are some good programs that are put on for the black students now and then..sometimes it's hard to get the majority of the black population to attend however... I remember this from personal experiences from being in office..

all and all though.. i think it's better on the National level and it's best to use the BLSA for their programs...nothing wrong with being social...

but you'll definitely see the cliques.. and since i didn't want to revert back to high school :D.. I tended to stay away from the majority of the events
Title: Re: BLSA?
Post by: awesome on June 21, 2005, 09:24:31 AM
I feel you blck reign:  I have gone to two meetings in two completed years of law school. Interesting point you made though. I can remember about 8 blacks at an Amistad viewing we had during Black History Month, but at the beginning of the year social I heard me and about two others were the only blacks not in attendance.  Our priorities seem twisted.

Title: Re: BLSA?
Post by: Nadege on June 21, 2005, 09:33:47 AM
If you don't mind me asking, what law school do you attend? I am entering law school in the fall and was looking forward to getting involved with BLSA. Seems like from your experience, they get absolutely nothing done...
Title: Re: BLSA?
Post by: awesome on June 21, 2005, 10:29:36 AM
I attend Univ of Arkansa, Fayetteville. 
Title: Re: BLSA?
Post by: Lawprofessor on June 21, 2005, 10:36:12 AM
I attend Univ of Arkansa, Fayetteville. 

I know someone who went there, what do you think of the black professors there?
Title: Re: BLSA?
Post by: awesome on June 21, 2005, 11:45:38 AM
Of course there are not many, only four. But they are cool.  I believe that they have different importance.  The best all around is probably our Evidence professor. He has been called by even some whites, the best professor there.  We have a sister there who is really a great person and compassionate about the black student body.  She is one of the hardest workers in the profession.
Title: Re: BLSA?
Post by: Lawprofessor on June 21, 2005, 12:10:56 PM
Well, glad to hear they are cool.  It is always good to have some good professors to care about the bothers and sisters.  It makes the trip of law school easier to deal with.
Title: Re: BLSA?
Post by: blk_reign on June 21, 2005, 01:51:03 PM

i went to GW law... it isn't a matter of what university you attend.. it's the universal way that some black folk act...


If you don't mind me asking, what law school do you attend? I am entering law school in the fall and was looking forward to getting involved with BLSA. Seems like from your experience, they get absolutely nothing done...
Title: Re: BLSA?
Post by: elegantpearl01 on June 21, 2005, 04:18:30 PM
BLSA was trifling at my school (UF), they were rather pretentious and fought over stupid stuff. Not to mention all the other drama caused by everyone dating everyone..lol..I was very active with Black Student Union on main campus and the Black Graduate Student Organization. 
Title: Re: BLSA?
Post by: 1lwhit on June 21, 2005, 06:33:22 PM
Hey Awesome...for a moment there, I thought you attended my school.  Last year, my BLSA kept so much ish going!  And what did I go and do?  I got talked into being Treasurer.  Things were SO bad that none of the 1Ls ran for office for the upcoming year.  2Ls and 3Ls were BEGGING the 1Ls to run for offices.  Needless to say, people ended up just saying "I'll do it."  So anyway, I'm now on the e-board and we are supposed to turn things around.  That's nice, great and all.  But I just know there will be some mess at some point so I'm content with just telling them to holla at me when they need a check or something.

My BLSA:
* I was accused of breaking up a marriage
* People were bitching b/c we were going to serve fried chicken (among other things) at a food fundraiser.  In response, a male 2L started arguing with the woman and ended up saying "If they think you a n-word for serving fried chicken, then they always thought you were so you better just take that money!"
* A male 2L busted up my apartment and caused so much noise that my neighbors called the cops on him
* The men do NOT respect the women

The list goes on and on....
Title: Re: BLSA?
Post by: elegantpearl01 on June 21, 2005, 07:51:55 PM
At my friend's school, two BLSA members got into a pencil fight (stabbing each other with pencils) in the bathroom over some dude...

But I think 1Lwhit, your BLSA is winning the drama fest...be careful..lol
Title: Re: BLSA?
Post by: smujd2007 on June 21, 2005, 09:49:51 PM
Ummmmm . . .dang. SMU BLSA is nothing like this. . . .

Sure, there are social events, but I think SMU's BLSA is more well rounded.  I don't remember hearing about any drama except when our vice president decided not to run for president . . .even that wasn't really drama . . .she was just so good with everything and everyone that we assumed she would naturally be the next president.

We had an African American museum where different professors and students chipped in pictures, albums, music, other memorabilia, and time to make the law quad and the main university aware of African American history and culture. BLSA is always active with mentoring and sponsorship and bringing in local attorneys to the meetings from different settings (corporate counsel, large firms, public service, etc) to talk to us about practicing law. BLSA even co sponsored a visit by the president of the ABA this year.

Overall, I was pleasantly surprised by what SMU BLSA has to offer. . . I wish more people had the same experience . . .

Title: Re: BLSA?
Post by: elegantpearl01 on June 22, 2005, 04:33:52 AM
I think part of the problem at my school is the fact that BLSA was so large (120 members). That should have been a good thing....it really should have
Title: Re: BLSA?
Post by: Burning Sands, Esq. on June 22, 2005, 08:23:14 AM
Awesome, good post, bruh.  Hold it down over there and tell them fools to get off you.

I think the sad truth bruh is whenever you deal with black folk in closed quarters the crabs in a barrel syndrome starts to surface.  You would think that at the law school level folks would be ready to drop the dumb sh!t and get on with it, but the stories I've heard from some of the schools sound close to your experience.

We had a similar situation at my school coming in with the upperclassmen who didn't even view our BLSA as a social club but more like a resume booster for themselves.  Our former leadership was content in just holding a meeting every now and again and not being active at the regional or national level at all.  For some reason my class was different, partly due to just sheer numbers.  The class ahead of us had about 15 black students, my class had about 45.  So when we came in we didn't know any better; we were already one big family amongst ourselves and we were ready for that bond & that comraderie that you were talking about with the upperclassmen.  And when we didn't see it we got pissed, but more importantly we got moving.  We started shaking things up and making stuff happen. 

First chance we got, we rolled out on our own and went to our BLSA regional meeting and I jumped on a regional board position, which anchored our school into the regional & national affiliation.  Now our chapter is active on both levels and the newly elected leadership is hype on doing ACTUAL PROGRAMS geared towards the incoming 1L's, taking them under our wing, making sure they have all the necessary weapons to make it, etc.  We didn't have that when we came in but f*ck it, we're gonna make sure the next class does.  Beyond that, now our BLSA chapter is in touch with the other BLSA chapters in the New York City area and we've already done events together and have some planned together for this upcoming year in addition to the national convention in DC.

So to answer your 2nd question, yes our leadership was a bit on the wack side, but we were able to oust their asses and do what we had to do to move past that.  Our current president is on point and definitely handling business like its supposed to be.

As far as the 3rd question (LOL) I'm sure that is going on as well  ;D but so far it hasn't made its way into the political limelight at my chapter. [crossing fingers]


Yo,

Sands