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What I Want Is A Mostly White Law School In A Mostly White Area

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Re: What I Want Is A Mostly White Law School In A Mostly White Area
« Reply #180 on: June 04, 2005, 02:52:11 PM »
Most law schools are mostly white...even those at HBCUs look at FAMU's law school in Orlando.

Re: What I Want Is A Mostly White Law School In A Mostly White Area
« Reply #181 on: August 02, 2005, 10:36:54 AM »
wow, i have to say, i hadn't read this thread before. Teiladay, perhaps if you're so worried about black people being stereotyped, you wouldn't write such ignorant things about black people on an anonymous message board. I have attended predominately white institutions throughout my higher education, and I still think its ridiculous that some black people have bought into the idea that white culture=the better culture, and that Black people can't achieve their goals and be the best academically and career-wise without taking on Caucasian cultural traits. but, to each his own...



Interesting.  I'm not worried about "black people being stereotyped", I'm a conscious parent, and teach MY children not to engage in activity and loud behaviour that I believe MOST reasonable people (black or white) find socially lacking. Such behavior is what commonly stereotypes blacks. I'm not worried about you or your children, I'm worried about myself and mine. I firmly believe that combating negative stereotypes and keeping MY children in line, starts in my home, and is my responsibility as a parent.. and definately not any teacher's responsibility!

I've heard it a million times over; You say: "I still think its ridiculous that some black people have bought into the idea that white culture=the better culture, and that Black people can't achieve their goals and be the best academically and carreer-wise without taking on Caucasian cultural traits. but, to each his own..."

Okaaaay...  So you HONESTLY think that wanting to attend University of Penn, or U of Virginia is academically AND socially on par with attending Howard (DC) or Southern down in Baton Rouge?  Just the contact base alone at U of Penn / U of VA is worth the effort.  It might mean the difference between being employeed at a small established but prominant firm, Versus working a government job. Career wise, the so-called "white" schools are generally a better choice more often than not.. and as a college graduate, I'm sure (like most reasonable & educated people) you know that already.  If you DON'T think that the "white schools" are on par socially and academically with the HBUs, but the schools and ABA report better bar passage rates and job attainment.. I would find it amazing that you could even possibly think that wanting to attend the "better" school(s) is succumbing to a White culture.

You mention black people taking on the Caucasian cultural traits... uuuh.. what traits specifically would those be?  Studying hard at a top school to make the grade and for a better chance at a better job?  Or simply standing in line quietly at an event instead of talking loud enough for people at 50 yards away to hear?  Or perhaps you mean the trait of pulling up to the school parking lot with your car stereo loud enough for only YOU to hear vs. people in the Chem. class 75 yards away..   Such aren't "white" or "caucasian" traits.  Such traits are freaking common sense traits that the typical American would rather encounter than not.  Oh, and I suppose the black teen's voice coming through the speaker at the drive through, in such a manner that the person placing the order can hear and understand every word that is articulated... would mean that the black person inside is "talking white" and taking on the Caucasian culture eh?   Get real.  The truth of the matter is, that most so-called "traits" that many blacks tend to refer to as "white", are merely traits of being freaking socially respectful and responsive to what MOST communities in America (black, white, asian or other(s)), would consider to be a preferred, respectful, of a low-criminal-element social standard.

Be specific in your statements when rebutting.  I am specific in mine.

I have not mentioned or given you any reason for one to infer that the White culture = better.  I did however make my scholastic preference clear.

I did not mention that blacks could not attain success and be the best academically and or "career-wise" without taking up Caucasian traits...  An idiot could make the educated assumtion that a person attending U of Penn, Harvard, Yale, Cornell, Berkley, U of VA.... would, from past data, intelligently gather that they have a higher propensity of reaping higher earning power, and better contacts than those who graduated law from Southern, Howard, Houston, etc..  Surely you have enough sense to realize that the education gained (especially that in order to pass the bar) is systematically better at the typical so-called "white" schools, when compared to the HBUs.

Again.. my decision and criteria in regards to what school I'd attend (and pay for my children to attend) is a decision that I feel is the best for my children and I.  If YOU want to go to a school (and or pay for YOUR children to attend a school) with an "oh-my-goodness-I-have-to-wonder-if-I-passed-the-bar" bar passage rate, then I say go for it!  :)

Teila K. Day




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Re: What I Want Is A Mostly White Law School In A Mostly White Area
« Reply #182 on: August 17, 2005, 09:52:14 AM »
What is it about white people that makes you more comfortable in that environment? (I am just curious and would ask the same question of anyone looking for a school of a particular ethnicity. But since white isn't really an ethnicity  ??? ...just wondering.)

prob for the same reason some black people seel to attend a predominantly black school.  it's comfortable and/or serves their needs as they see fit



Agreed.

Re: What I Want Is A Mostly White Law School In A Mostly White Area
« Reply #183 on: August 17, 2005, 11:25:40 AM »

it isn't the same since blacks will always be a minority at a non hbcu..where as whites are the majority everywhere but hbcs

What is it about white people that makes you more comfortable in that environment? (I am just curious and would ask the same question of anyone looking for a school of a particular ethnicity. But since white isn't really an ethnicity  ??? ...just wondering.)

prob for the same reason some black people seel to attend a predominantly black school.  it's comfortable and/or serves their needs as they see fit



Agreed.

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Re: What I Want Is A Mostly White Law School In A Mostly White Area
« Reply #184 on: August 17, 2005, 12:48:27 PM »
I was agreeing with your idea that blacks attend HBCU because it is more comfortable for them. I was at a diversity workshop and one of the girls (go to HBCU) said that exact same thing. She said that she felt more comfortable around people like her and that she didn't find anything wrong with anybody doing that, whether they be black, white, asian, hispanic, whatever.

Re: What I Want Is A Mostly White Law School In A Mostly White Area
« Reply #185 on: August 20, 2005, 11:13:45 PM »
Teila, my house negro friend, you've managed to do only two things.  First, you've "proved" a correlation between black people and "retarded behavior" - not a cause and effect.  Secondly, you've managed to piss off a few posters here and there.  I'm not one of them - I've known too many people like you to care anymore.  What I will say is this.  Making judgements based on race that declares one race as better, especially in the blatantly dualistic way you've portrayed it, is by definition racist.  Period.  If that's your outlook, fine, but don't delude yourself into thinking it's anything else.

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Re: What I Want Is A Mostly White Law School In A Mostly White Area
« Reply #186 on: August 21, 2005, 08:34:19 AM »
I think you are reading too much into what Teila said. It's true, most people want others to be respectful, and that is not white, black, or green culture or traits. It is being a respectful human being. There are even white people that act like fools in front of others, so it really isn't only some black people perpetrating this. Just to let you know. I think you are just trying to make Teila out to be something Teila may not be.

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Re: What I Want Is A Mostly White Law School In A Mostly White Area
« Reply #187 on: August 21, 2005, 08:53:28 AM »
Strange how the beginning of this thread was so congenial and now its just a judgementfest.

Some minorities feel more comfortable with their own type.
Some whites feel more comfortable with their own type.

Why is it ok for minorities to feel this way but wrong for whites???

Where's the consistency? Where's the integrity?

Re: What I Want Is A Mostly White Law School In A Mostly White Area
« Reply #188 on: August 21, 2005, 09:54:41 AM »
Strange how the beginning of this thread was so congenial and now its just a judgementfest.

Some minorities feel more comfortable with their own type.
Some whites feel more comfortable with their own type.

Why is it ok for minorities to feel this way but wrong for whites???

Where's the consistency? Where's the integrity?

Maybe if it were as cut and dry as that we'd all be seeing the same thing.  But maybe you're ignoring the fact that the REASONING for wanting predominantly white universities, the reasoning that has been presented in this thread, has rarely if ever been "because I feel more comfortable with people of my skin color".  Oversimplify anything and you'll be wondering why people are more complex than you.  Stop deluding yourself into thinking you've found some plain as day contradiction like most anti-AA types like to do every other sentence.

Vinny, if Teila is saying something other than what I've represented the posts said, I indeed DO hope that Teila corrects me - not you.

angelus

Re: What I Want Is A Mostly White Law School In A Mostly White Area
« Reply #189 on: August 21, 2005, 10:03:37 AM »
But maybe you're ignoring the fact that the REASONING for wanting predominantly white universities, the reasoning that has been presented in this thread, has rarely if ever been "because I feel more comfortable with people of my skin color".

Where? I read the entire thread and all posts pointed to comfort factor. Just because someone is uncomfortable around people of other races doesn't mean they are racist.

 
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Oversimplify anything and you'll be wondering why people are more complex than you.


Actually, People aren't that complex.

 
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Stop deluding yourself into thinking you've found some plain as day contradiction like most anti-AA types like to do every other sentence.

I am not deluding myself. It is a plain as day contradiction. How dare you assume I am Anti-AA. You're confusing teh need for affirmative action with human comfort levels. There is no correlation child.

I will state that oftentimes racism has to do with comfort level, yet that doesn't negate my first arguement if you are able to comprehend the reasoning.

I'd say more but I'm concerned it would only confuse you even more. :(