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Feb. 2000 Game#2 Q.11 & 12
« on: May 26, 2007, 04:34:05 PM »
Hey guys,

For Q. 11 and 12 from Feb. 2000 Game#2, how do you approach this kind of questions? I got pretty much all the inferences from the setup. But, for q. 11 and 12 I couldn't see where to start. Do you go over from the answer (A) to (E)? Is there any short cut to these CANNOT BE TRUE questions?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Feb. 2000 Game#2 Q.11 & 12
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2007, 04:57:18 PM »
I don't have that one.  If you PM me the setup and the questions I'll take a stab at it.

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Re: Feb. 2000 Game#2 Q.11 & 12
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2007, 10:29:55 PM »
This is the final test in the superprep book. I don't have it on me right now. Tomorrow, Sunday, I'll answer this question if it hasn't been already.

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Re: Feb. 2000 Game#2 Q.11 & 12
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2007, 12:02:41 AM »
I sent the questions to you guys as PM. I'll appreciate it if you guys can help me with it.

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Re: Feb. 2000 Game#2 Q.11 & 12
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2007, 01:15:45 AM »
R - P - L
T - M - V


Possibles from conditionals [and contrapositives]...both conditionals lead to the same possibilities.

        V
       /
T - M - S - P - L
                 /
                R


        L
       /
R - P - S - M - V
                 /
               T


11. Which one of the following CANNOT be true?
(A) Pastilla ranks second highest. CAN - conditionals
(B) Vistula ranks third highest. CAN - conditionals
(C) Lautrec ranks third highest. CAN - conditional

(D) Robusto ranks fifth highest. CAN
(E) Scheherazade's ranks sixth highest. CAN'T because if S is 6th, then it would have to be higher than M kicking in the second conditional making it not 6th.

12. If Tantoko is ranked third highest, then which one of the following CANNOT be true?
(A) Lautrec is ranked fourth highest.
(B) Pastilla is ranked fifth highest.
(C) Medici is ranked fifth highest.
(D) Scheherazade's is ranked fifth highest.
(E) Medici is ranked sixth highest.

Let's put T third and see what MUST be true and then go from there.

 X - X - T - X - X - X - X

 X - X - T - [M - V, X , X]

 So...possibilities...
 [R, S] - T - [M - V, P - L]
 [R, P] - T - [M - V, S, L]

So.
(A) Lautrec is ranked fourth highest. - Yes. Possibility 2
(B) Pastilla is ranked fifth highest. - NO. Not possible
(C) Medici is ranked fifth highest. - Yes. Possibility 2
(D) Scheherazade's is ranked fifth highest. Yes. Possibility 2
(E) Medici is ranked sixth highest. Yes. Either Possibility.

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Re: Feb. 2000 Game#2 Q.11 & 12
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2007, 01:37:29 PM »
Possibles from conditionals [and contrapositives]...both conditionals lead to the same possibilities.
I finally got it. I didn't quite understand the third and fourth conditional rules, so everything seemed just random.

Thank you so much!

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Re: Feb. 2000 Game#2 Q.11 & 12
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2007, 04:36:49 PM »
Just got your PM, sg7007, but my pony's too slow.  rmkrause nailed it exactly.  Conditionals with ranking elements are kinda wacky at first.  If you want some more practice, preptest 25, section 3, game 3 (the one about people playing golf or tennis) has a couple similar clues.