2008 Rankings T100, T3, T4

[Slow Children At Play]

Specialty ranking often place lesser-ranked schools above higher-ranked schools because of the methodology used. It's strictly reputational. The question in the survey asks respondents to select schools which they think/have heard posess good programs in the area.

This lends itself toward selection of schools where the reputation of the special program is most widely disparate from the reputation of the school as a whole.

This is especially true of speciality rankings in areas that aren't really practice areas in and of themselves (legal writing, trial advocacy).

This is why Stetson is found to outrank Harvard in trial advocacy. That doesn't mean that an aspiring trial lawyer coming out of Stetson will compete favorably with one coming out of Harvard. Quite the opposite.

Very informative--thanks for that.  

I can finally stop kicking myself for not applying to Stetson.

[LawJedi]

I'm speechless, I can't believe LSU fell and UF didn't drop out of T1.

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Specialty ranking often place lesser-ranked schools above higher-ranked schools because of the methodology used. It's strictly reputational. The question in the survey asks respondents to select schools which they think/have heard posess good programs in the area.

This lends itself toward selection of schools where the reputation of the special program is most widely disparate from the reputation of the school as a whole.

This is especially true of speciality rankings in areas that aren't really practice areas in and of themselves (legal writing, trial advocacy).

This is why Stetson is found to outrank Harvard in trial advocacy. That doesn't mean that an aspiring trial lawyer coming out of Stetson will compete favorably with one coming out of Harvard. Quite the opposite.

Very informative--thanks for that.  

I can finally stop kicking myself for not applying to Stetson.

Haha, smartass. 

Just thought I'd get it out there. No sense letting silliness run wild!

The specialty rankings work best in actual practice areas, like international, environmental and tax law, I think. But there's still some screwiness. UF-Levin has a good tax LL.M. program and all, but putting it between NYU and Georgetown? I think not.

[BYU RULES]

Man.  BYU is always snubbed.  It's a top 20 school, no doubt.

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Man.  BYU is always snubbed.  It's a top 20 school, no doubt.

I LOL'd. 

[UGAfootballfanatic]

A lot of us were suprised with UF's slight drop to 47 (we all thought FSU would pass us based on the Dean's panicked letter) and Bama's rise to 36. UF expects to fix the ranking problem in teh next two years (we're artificially inflated by 150 students until 2008, which affects the per capita expenditures as part of the ranking). Oh, well. I still think they should reduce the class size by 30%...

[yoyodawg]

How are you "artificially inflated" when your own school decided to inflate the class by 150? Its not like it was something that the didn't know was coming.

And also, I'd say a drop by 6 isn't a "slight drop". But overall, I'd say that it's not as big as expected seeing the UF dean's letter.

Bama is a suprise too. Doesn't mean that they travel as far in South still. I'd say that even though UNC, UF, Tulane and UGA still place better thoughout the South despite the sudden bump of rankings of Bama.

A lot of us were suprised with UF's slight drop to 47 (we all thought FSU would pass us based on the Dean's panicked letter) and Bama's rise to 36. UF expects to fix the ranking problem in teh next two years (we're artificially inflated by 150 students until 2008, which affects the per capita expenditures as part of the ranking). Oh, well. I still think they should reduce the class size by 30%...

[keelee]

FIU debuts in T3!

Which was very impressive. I say FIU is T2 within 3 years. The buzz locally has been amazing, and Miami is one of the country's largest legal markets with only one well-respected law school. The need for another good law school in the area has been huge.

[FSUGeoff]

FIU debuts in T3!

Which was very impressive. I say FIU is T2 within 3 years. The buzz locally has been amazing, and Miami is one of the country's largest legal markets with only one well-respected law school. The need for another good law school in the area has been huge.

Hit the nail on the head!

[George Sr.]

FIU debuts in T3!

Which was very impressive. I say FIU is T2 within 3 years. The buzz locally has been amazing, and Miami is one of the country's largest legal markets with only one well-respected law school. The need for another good law school in the area has been huge.

Hit the nail on the head!

If you are willing to wager, I'll happily make a $500 PayPal transacted bet that FIU will not be T2 in 2010/2011.

I predict FIU = AVEMARIAPWN3D!