wise man once said we're all going to be held accountable for what we've done with what we've been given...
Quote from: bigs5068 on November 28, 2008, 03:38:37 PMI work in the legal field in New York and the team of lawyers I work for went to UPenn, University of Michigan, NYU, Columbia, Touro, CUNY Queens, and New York Law School. Each of them started at $50,000 that is the starting salary for attorneys here no matter where you go. They all work in Manhattan and told me right of school they were not living a life of luxury. However, the attorneys get $5,000 a year raises. You shouldn't expect to come out of Law School making 100,000 or something no matter what school you go to you have to be trained how to practice law in the real world. There are exceptions and you might come out with a high paying 100,000 job, but that doesn’t happen often. Every lawyer here has told me in law school you just learn the basics, but it takes a year or two before you can actually be a productive lawyer. Going to law school is a risk and you may in debt the rest of your life no matter where you go. As for your don't go to lower than tier 1 law school a perfect example of you being wrong is that recent law graduates interviewed for a position here and there were five candidates from the following schools Columbia, Harvard, NYU, Rutgers, and New York Law School. I got to sit in on the interviews and the Harvard lady was the most arrogant & obnoxious person I have ever met and she did not even get past the first round of interviews. The other four were cool and the Rutgers guy was the one who ended up taking the job. He has done a really good job so far and I am sure the Harvard lady is still out pissing people off. for the record, if you go to Michigan, NYU, CLS, HLS, or peer schools (note i did not include penn because i hate penn), you can and should expect to make well over $100k upon graduation. the exceptions are:1) you screw up badly in terms of grades; 2) you have a horrendous personality and poor hygiene to boot; or3) you are competing for a job in government or public interest that pays significantly less but is either a) something very competitive; or b) something about which you care very much.
I work in the legal field in New York and the team of lawyers I work for went to UPenn, University of Michigan, NYU, Columbia, Touro, CUNY Queens, and New York Law School. Each of them started at $50,000 that is the starting salary for attorneys here no matter where you go. They all work in Manhattan and told me right of school they were not living a life of luxury. However, the attorneys get $5,000 a year raises. You shouldn't expect to come out of Law School making 100,000 or something no matter what school you go to you have to be trained how to practice law in the real world. There are exceptions and you might come out with a high paying 100,000 job, but that doesn’t happen often. Every lawyer here has told me in law school you just learn the basics, but it takes a year or two before you can actually be a productive lawyer. Going to law school is a risk and you may in debt the rest of your life no matter where you go. As for your don't go to lower than tier 1 law school a perfect example of you being wrong is that recent law graduates interviewed for a position here and there were five candidates from the following schools Columbia, Harvard, NYU, Rutgers, and New York Law School. I got to sit in on the interviews and the Harvard lady was the most arrogant & obnoxious person I have ever met and she did not even get past the first round of interviews. The other four were cool and the Rutgers guy was the one who ended up taking the job. He has done a really good job so far and I am sure the Harvard lady is still out pissing people off.
Quote from: Ninja1 on November 30, 2008, 08:52:21 AMSo intelligent the art of using two keys on the keyboard at once escapes you...before i read the rest of your post, i need to point out that this made me laugh. Quote from: Ninja1 on November 30, 2008, 08:52:21 AMIt's not hard to argue against the dumb poo you say, like that anyone from anywhere should expect to make $100k straight out, it's just not worth the time. It's sort of like taking the time to argue with a child about why their parents don't love them, they just plain don't. Actually, that probably explains a lot about your personality... that, or daddy loved you a little much... too many "hugs"...heh. i consider child molestation jokes beneath me, but they seem perfectly in line with your posting personality.as for what i said about the $100k, the vast majority of hls, cls, nyu, and mich grads (note again that i left out penn because i hate penn) can and will get job offers from the big firms, where the starting salaries are $160k. granted this figure will weaken a bit given the economy (and i mean a very small bit), but when i was going through recruiting roughly 95% or so of my law school class got offers from the big firms. so given the exceptions that i pointed out, one can and should expect to make well upward of $100k. now given that you know next to nothing about what it's like to be at one of these top schools and i do, you might want to: a) point out some kind of data that supports your position; or b) stop embarrassing yourself.personally, i doubt you'll do either. which is good for me because i'm getting a kick out of this.
So intelligent the art of using two keys on the keyboard at once escapes you...
It's not hard to argue against the dumb poo you say, like that anyone from anywhere should expect to make $100k straight out, it's just not worth the time. It's sort of like taking the time to argue with a child about why their parents don't love them, they just plain don't. Actually, that probably explains a lot about your personality... that, or daddy loved you a little much... too many "hugs"...
fixt. ixnay on the real name!
That's cool how you referenced a case.
I'm so far from the end of my tether right now that I reckon I could knit myself some socks with the slack.
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