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Diversity vs. URM applicant: this is not flamebait
« on: January 04, 2005, 10:06:47 PM »
Because the topic seems to be coming up in so many threads as of late, I thought it would be useful to emphasize the distinction between a "diversity" applicant and a URM applicant.

Fairly or not, the only groups currently recognized as URM's are African Americans, Native Americans, and Hispanics.  (If you wish to discuss the validity or fairness of the system, please go to threads which are more relevant.  This is not the place to flame about it.)  URM's are the only groups that get the benefit of AA admission.  (Again, take your flames elsewhere. >:()

A number of threads have started regarding whether someone who is not a member of one of these groups can benefit from AA or be considered a URM.  People seem to get very testy when they are told they are not.  They cite disadvantage, cultural distinction, and various other elements which they believe entitle them to special consideration during the admission process.  What they often do not realize is that certain applicants, not technically URM's, can still get the benefit of special consideration, although not the benefits of AA.  These are people with special qualities and experiences that schools feel add to the intellectual and social climate of their institution.  These are "diversity" applicants and although they are not eligible to benefit from AA, their applications are considered on the merits in light of these special circumstances.

I suppose the point I am trying to make is that you don't have to be a URM to have your SES considered.  If you are not a URM, but have these special qualities, emphasize them in your application and you will receive consideration. 

Perhaps this will alieviate some of the tension between URM's and those who attempt to make their case for that status.

Let's please remember that we are all going to have to learn to work together.  The earlier we begin to understand and respect one another the better our law school and professional experiences will be.

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Re: Diversity vs. URM applicant: this is not flamebait
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2005, 01:27:13 AM »
Point of Information or clarification--URMs are not the only ones who benefit from AA--you have to look at each schools individual policy to see which groups are encompassed in their AA program; some schools include students from Appalachia, Veterans, and those of lower socioeconomic status in their AA programs.

Nor are African Americans, Native Americans, and Hispanics the only recognized URMs-while that is is true to some extent for the national law schools in some places notably the South other groups namely Asians may be included.

You are right however to emphasize the difference between AA + Diversity points.  All applicants regardless of color have the opportunity to share with law schools their individual experience/background which may bring diversity to the student body.   The classification of URM is more a recognition of the collective struggles that these particular ethnic groups have had in gaining equality of opportunity in this country.

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Re: Diversity vs. URM applicant: this is not flamebait
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2005, 01:37:40 AM »
Point of Information or clarification--URMs are not the only ones who benefit from AA--you have to look at each schools individual policy to see which groups are encompassed in their AA program; some schools include students from Appalachia, Veterans, and those of lower socioeconomic status in their AA programs.



I have never seen an AA policy that favored anyone but URM's.  Can you cite a policy that you think does otherwise.  I am not saying you are wrong, but I guess I was under the impression that only URM's got AA and everyone else got "diversity points."

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