Most overrated T14?

[which one?]

which one?

Yale

 17 (5%)

Harvard

 14 (4.2%)

Stanford

 2 (0.6%)

Columbia

 7 (2.1%)

Chicago

 11 (3.3%)

Penn

 58 (17.2%)

NYU

 26 (7.7%)

Boalt

 17 (5%)

Michigan

 33 (9.8%)

UVa

 10 (3%)

Duke

 30 (8.9%)

Cornell

 48 (14.2%)

Northwestern

 14 (4.2%)

GULC

 50 (14.8%)

Total Members Voted: 336

[OnTheRoad]

Eh, I just mean in the sense of finding out which are the big deal firms, etc. I hadn't heard of skadden before I started this.

[AmyWaxFanClubPresident]

It's good to use, but in many ways it is similar to law school rankings.  There is not much difference probably outside the V10 (arguably V5).  Chambers and partners (combined with Vault), is a much better tool.

Eh, I just mean in the sense of finding out which are the big deal firms, etc. I hadn't heard of skadden before I started this.

[stricly bricly]

Eh.  It stills seems like asking whether you can break Vault10 is silly when they all pay the same amount plus/minus bonus.  Lawyers, surprisingly enough, love these rankings.  I'm still surprised that the legal profession -- widely considered a literary profession by layman -- has so many of them.

you and i know very different laymen.

[OnTheRoad]

It's good to use, but in many ways it is similar to law school rankings.  There is not much difference probably outside the V10 (arguably V5).  Chambers and partners (combined with Vault), is a much better tool.

Eh, I just mean in the sense of finding out which are the big deal firms, etc. I hadn't heard of skadden before I started this.

Is "Chambers and Partners" the title of something? Sorry...

[stricly bricly]

that is true.  i forget sometimes that not everyone was raised in a cynical ditch of iniquity.

My home state still seems to give its lawyers 1950s-esque prestige.

[AmyWaxFanClubPresident]

Fixt.

Eh.  It stills seems like asking whether you can break Vault10 is silly when they all pay the same amount plus/minus bonus.  Lawyers Law students, surprisingly enough, love these rankings.  I'm still surprised that the legal profession -- widely considered a literary profession by layman -- has so many of them.

you and i know very different laymen.

[AmyWaxFanClubPresident]

http://www.chambersandpartners.com/

It's good to use, but in many ways it is similar to law school rankings.  There is not much difference probably outside the V10 (arguably V5).  Chambers and partners (combined with Vault), is a much better tool.

Eh, I just mean in the sense of finding out which are the big deal firms, etc. I hadn't heard of skadden before I started this.

Is "Chambers and Partners" the title of something? Sorry...

[MorningLattes]

Eh.  It stills seems like asking whether you can break Vault10 is silly when they all pay the same amount plus/minus bonus.  I'm still surprised that the legal profession -- widely considered a literary profession by layman -- has so many rankings.

I totally agree with you Wallace; what's the point if they are all paying you the same.
But this profession is all about prestige, so this obsession with providing rankings seems inevitable

[AmyWaxFanClubPresident]

I agree to a limited extent.  Overall vault ranking is not as important as practice group rating.  But to say they all pay the same is not a good argument.  The work you will do and your exit options depend on where you practice.

Eh.  It stills seems like asking whether you can break Vault10 is silly when they all pay the same amount plus/minus bonus.  I'm still surprised that the legal profession -- widely considered a literary profession by layman -- has so many rankings.

I totally agree with you Wallace; what's the point if they are all paying you the same.
But this profession is all about prestige, so this obsession with providing rankings seems inevitable

[OnTheRoad]

I'm loving www.chambersandpartners.com Grouping by "bands" instead of ranking - we really need to see this in the USNWR.